What would be a good claim for the following thesis using this evidence relating to germans and the

Thesis-Both the jews and the germans were victims during the reign of hitler.

below is my evidence i need you to give me a claim and tell me which 2 pieces of evidence would be the best (and if you think i should adjust the thesis please feel free to)

1.many germans had jewish friends and they witnessed many of them die

2.If any german was homosexual retarded non aryan didnt have blonde hair or blue eyes they would be killed

3.The nazis had propaganda techniques to influence the young german children to join the HJ and fihgt against the jews

4.the germans were the people who built the 'death camps' for the jews

What would be a good claim for the following thesis using this evidence relating to germans and the holocaust?

All would be good -- however Germans followed blindly, were forced into service of Hitler and the youth knew no different

What would be a good claim for the following thesis using this evidence relating to germans and the holocaust?

1. This is stupid, it seem to equate knowing someone who died with having your family wiped out or being killed yourself.

2. Valid for the homosexual and retard, invalid for the non-blond hair bit. Nobody was ever killed for merely not having blond hair and blue eyes.

3. "oh no i was tricked by propaganda into killing Jews, I'm a victim" another really stupid point.

4. They built the camps? prisoners did the building any non-prisoners who worked on the camps were paid.

You're four for four on stupid points.

a) Germans were victims because they were sent to the camps for political beliefs as well for being Jewish, gypsies, retarded, or gay. The point is that Jews and gypsies were German, thus Germans were victims. You're attempting to argue from a Nazi's point of view, that anyone with a small amount Jewish blood wasn't German.

What would be a good claim for the following thesis using this evidence relating to germans and the holocaust?

Scratch your thesis and rethink! The holocaust was set in motion when somebody somewhere divided people into "germans" and "jews".

There were (and still are) german jews, german catholics, german protestants, german muslims ...

So germans were victims if they were jewish germans, communist germans, gay germans, retarded germans.

What would be a good claim for the following thesis using this evidence relating to germans and the holocaust?

None of these are really good (neither is your thesis).

1. Not true.Germans and jews tended to make friends within their respective own groups.

2. Not true either.SA leader Roehm was homosexual (ok, he got killed, but not bc. of that).Blonde hair, blue eyes - ever seen a pic of Hitler?

3. True, but I don't see how that would make them (the germans) victims.

4. Yes and no.Sometimes it was germans, mostly RAD (imperial labour service), but often it was the first wave of prisoners who had to build the camps themselves.

The best claim would probably be the war (especially the bombing) itself, bc. thats what germans suffered from.